Since he had a short attention span (being a tiny puppy) he would get bored quickly as soon as I stood still. Lily’s results arrived in my inbox today. There is currently 34% off the Wisdom Panel kit at Amazon UK. But it’s easier than saying that the dog is a dwarfed German Shepherd cross. This was for both of my dogs. But their bags are hard as rocks, poor things, and they are giving almost no milk at all. Ranger looks like an oversized English Shepherd and he matches the characteristics of the breed right down the line. Oh my, it is late and its been a long day so I don’t feel particularly articulate. This was a family that had supposed dog and more specifically, breed experience. Several of my dogs gave blood samples, as did most of the entries at our and several other breed National Specialties, to aid in the development of the database. @Beth w/ Corgis, Thank you for saving me the trouble of looking up a link to the actual study. With regard to ‘real problems’. If I was looking for a dog for a specific job I think breed characteristics would be relevant, — I wouldn’t choose a Papillion for a pack dog although I know one that proudly carries two defunct cellphones in his hand crocheted pack — I’d be looking for a big sturdy dog and would prefer that there be a strong genetic contribution from a breed that originated as draft animals. Sally’s results showed that she was a carrier for hypocatalasia (aka acatalasemia and . All I can say after seeing Leo and Leo’s mom is OUCH! You are such a nice family. Thirdly – lack of appropriate exercise and training and predatory outlets. Welcome to an ongoing inquiry about the behavior of people and dogs. But I’ll have to leave the story to stand in its own right. But it doesn’t mean to say that the gun dog should put up with inappropriate behaviour from children (or be interpreted as being more child friendly perhaps) because it has a genetic predisposition to be more passive as opposed to aggressive. It was the “MX” panel, with a blood test, and the results came back so weird that I called the company to confirm that they were right. Dogs have lived for thousands of years without dog parks. Also, is it not said that all breeds are 99.8% (or was that 98%) genetically similar to each other? And it is not fair to people to use dogs as guarding, protecting, or fighting dogs and then get upset when people are scared of them. Absolutely. And if your border collie ignores sheep at 8 months old you should not be ready to confidently announce that “this one doesn’t care about sheep.” And if your JRT at 18 months still loves other dogs, he does not need a bad experience to decide at 22 months that he wants to fight every dog of the same sex. The Portuguese Waterdog’s DNA came back as at least 25% Springer Spaniel and 25% Border Collie and also no other significant (or minor) breeds. The thing about sharing such experiences/stories is that the teller puts the audience in a tricky spot. It was just an exericise in explaining after the fact, and as much about my own historical fantasy as anything else. And that is why most pit bull advocacy groups say “adult pit bulls should not go to dog parks.”. They don’t know that they are actually misrepresenting the dogs when they tell this story as it was adapted from a comment that a breeder of fighting dogs made, saying that his dog would win in the pit, and then come home and nanny the children. I recommended two things. But there are certainly a great many dogs, at least in America, who do absolutely need something like a dog park. Chesapeake Bay Retriever 14.5% Sally’s results showed that she was a carrier for hypocatalasia (aka acatalasemia and . Using a doll as a stand-in is, thankfully, not. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, … I can, and do, take them for long walks but they need to meet other dogs to keep them socialized (I have two shy dogs). In other words, they are confident that one of Leo’s parents is a half Boxer/half Am Staff, and are making likely predictions of the other parent. I hear stories all the time of people getting big fines because their dog was running free in the forest or on the beach! As for defined work, I think we have seen a huge resurgence in working dogs. In other words, genetics gives you a certain probability of a certain set of behaviors, but that is a probability, not a definite. It’s two sides of the same coin. All of which is a long-winded way of saying the guess what breeds went into Leo’s make up is an entertaining and intellectually interesting exercise. And they have the difficult decision about how to best serve the dog for the future. JRTs rank up there with the pitties, while the rattie is described as “a non-sparring breed and generally friendly with other dogs”. Huge, physically imposing, large for it’s breed. I find the incident with the woman during the ‘Sit for Petting’ training kind of funny. I find that many origin stories are happily repeated, false though they may be. The Canine Breed Analysis is based on the most sophisticated and comprehensive canine genetic database for dogs available and is proven to be 90 percent accurate on average. Of course since the owners were responsible no breeding took place but it was fun wondering what size the result would be, what ears, coat, coloring, etc. @Beth, May I respectfully suggest that what you experienced may have been puppy owners who were astonished that anyone could think their puppy was mean and were still trying to process the idea that their puppy’s breed is so maligned that people see the stereotype rather than the dog no matter what the dog, or in this case puppy, is presenting? Walking and playing with my dogs and watching them and other dogs play and interact is like my heaven on earth. I am expecting “Mixed Breed” or “No Result” because in essence, he is a village dog from Egypt. For others, there is a total split between show and working lines. Other than that, the more wonderful, passionate, and educated people there are in the world caring about dogs, the better the welfare of our furry and all too adorable friends, will be! In addition, it does not take long for badly bred purebreds to look remarkably different than their counterparts. Some breeds do have a natural tendency to be good with children, just as some breeds are naturally hunters or good with sheep, or nippy with small children, or barkers, or combative with other dogs. I would also mention that if you were o purchase a Corgi as a pet, would you be concerned if it didn’t want to nip or herd your legs?! I suppose it bears mentioning that I have seen countless dogs in this big pet store and never seen another exhibiting this particular behavior which can only be described as guarding behavior. The mastiff owners, on the other hand, had clear evidence that people were a little nervous of their dogs and that did not seem to faze them. Thanks, Trisha! And yes, I saw the BC B&W colouring, the Boston Terrier head and overall look, and the Bulldog for its wider chest and head maybe. WISDOM PANEL, Wisdom Panel 4.0, $85 Wisdom Panel Health, $150 WIRED: Approachable pricing. I wish this was the actual study and not a report on it as I have some questions about how the qualities were measured and how the link between the qualities and the job was established but it struck me as another interesting facet of the puzzle so here it is. Guide dogs, service dogs, police dogs, bomb dogs are more and more common. However, he developed corneal dystrophy, common in Norwegian Elkhonds, & found only in a couple of puppy-mill lines of Kees’. LIsaW, interesting question about whether or not it matters to know the breed history. Hearing that, didn’t, however, change the behavior or mean that it didn’t need to be addressed and truthfully, I would have been just as reassured if our trainer had said, most dogs go through this phase or most bitches, or most fill in the blank. Media reporting can lead to anti-breed bias. That said, it is common for Labs to not mind being thunked around the face or have people shriek near them. When I say that it is “interesting” to know that danes come from a big game hunting background, I mean that from the perspective that the CURRENT breed description usually claims that danes are “low prey drive”, “low to medium energy level”, and “compatible with other animals”. On the other hand, I never would have unclipped the leash in an unfenced area, not even once. It all comes back to education and understanding the history of a breed and their behavioural characteristics is essential. I chose mixed breed dogs since so many purebred dogs have such huge potential health issues and I tend to think that purebred dogs that end up in shelters are not those who were purchased from carefully researched breeders but more likely to have been the product of puppy mills or backyard breeders. I wanted companions who also had the right drive and physical ability to excel at agility. What a fun exercise this has been. Here’s the text at the top of the page titled “What does the Mixed Breed Analysis mean for my dog?” It began by saying “We have identified for you the next 5 best breed matches which appeared in the analysis of your dog’s DNA. But I think the fundamentals of where dogs can come into difficulty (prey drive, poor socialisation and training, lack of exercise and mental stimulation, poor nutrition) apply right across the breeds and of course include mutts. “Hope” guessed both, for one, and “Laura Anne” guessed both Boxer and “pit-bull,” of which Am Staff is a type. Next time I am curious about a dog I suspect I won’t be able to resist sending in a sample. They both have high energy. But I agree with what you are saying. We bought him from a German Shepherd breeder and his parents are AKC registered as GSD’s. We approached the dogs respectfully. @Rebecca Rice your own Pins on Pinterest They are also a spontaneous mutation that can occur in any number of breeds. I have seen countless dogs listed as “Corgi mix” at our shelter, mostly because they are a medium dog with very short legs. That I think is the basis for the claims of breed racism, that simply assuming a dog is automatically vicious, dangerous, and unsafe based entirely on his breed is very much akin to judging someone by the color of their skin or their ethnic background. > Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Apr 19, 2018 #1. eam New Member Registered. I’d say that boils down to a lot of people failing their dogs by failing to educate themselves in order to understand their behaviour, what they are trying to communicate and placing unrealistic expectations on them. I wonder what this organisation had communicated to your friend with regard to this individual dog and breed/ type? It’s a heeler trait. I will assume you wrote your most recent longer post before you had a nutritious lunch. ‘ some well-bred labs are good with children’. According to the results, Neeko is 37.5% unknown or too mixed to tell, 12.5% Siberian Husky, 25% German Shepherd, and 25% Alaskan Malamute. Aussies do it a bit. But I have also experienced the same adrenaline rush with out of control Goldens, JRTs and Choc Labs! A newborn great dane will be approximately two pounds, not significantly larger than a German Shepherd or Labrador, for instance, but MUCH bigger than a newborn Shih Tzu. Dna Results Doberman Collie Boxer Wisdom Map Awesome Boxer Pants Dobermans. (At least not to us.) Unless there is a sort of structure or expectation on behalf of the audience to be active receivers, then they are unprepared. Wisdom Panel offers customers a satisfaction guarantee. However, in some cases one’s dog really contains such an amalgam of genes that it is truly impossible to associate any breed to it. After all, I closed my post with “But if your dog is already 4 years old when you get it, you are faced with dealing with the dog you have in front of you, and so knowing what genetics drive the behavior might not be quite as important.” after opening it with “LIsaW, interesting question about whether or not it matters to know the breed history. But I will definitely take Wisdom Panel’s advice about showing their report to my vet the next time we go, in case this helps me learn more about the best day-to-day care I can give my precious pet! You are setting the dog up to fail. When a study says something entirely different than the blog based on the study, my reaction is to question the motive behind the person quoting the study. It is irresponsible to expect this of ANY dog. If any dog gives me any reason to be uncomfortable then the decision will be to move along. She was white with liver spots, she had the ears and the head and the tummy tuck, and the tail, and she pointed. In these discussions it pays to get dog aggression into persepctive in society. I needed to train my little herders to recall, of course, but they are extremely unlikely to follow a rabbit into the next town. Now there is a handsome pittie if ever i saw one! Since we live by a park, we wanted him to think of the entirety of dogdom as “dogs we know” and so when he was a puppy, we took him out multiple times every day and anytime we saw a person, or a person with a dog, we would explain we were socializing our pup and ask if it was ok to meet. But I guess I don’t feel like it is all that useful to me, really” reminds me of a story Trisha relays in For the Love of a Dog, about a Husky who got loose at a herding event and took down one of the sheep. Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. If you’re looking for a dog DNA test you can trust to be accurate, we suggest going with Wisdom Panel 2.5. Patricia is known the world over for her clear and engaging, Lambs, Rain, Papers, Lambs, Rain, Papers, Lambs. The dog was raised with other dogs, socialized with other dogs, was human- and dog-submissive— until the day he climbed the fence to fight the dog next door, and the behavior escalated severely from there. You can hug and squeeze Maddie and she loves it; Jack hates feeling restrained. You’ll discover how DNA and breed history can impact your pet’s behavior and health. (Likewise, there was no compelling reason NOT to anticipate his deer obsession. We’re working on it (vet visits, hot packs to the udders, reaching out to UW specialists) but right now the 4 lambs are being bottle fed as often as possible with goat milk from our good friend Donna H. (Bless you!) It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack, and there are so many other dogs who tend to be low-energy. How does the Wisdom Panel report show a mixed-breed dog's results? Finnish Spitz 5.63% The original bulldog itself was closely related to the Mastiff, and the Molosser-type is the parent dog of most of the guarding and war breeds (Rotties, the various countries’ mastiffs, and a handful of working breeds), including bulldogs. As far as socializing, there are different levels of socializing. This concerns me greatly. ”, “Selection for use in Working dog trials is associated with high playfulness and aggressiveness, whereas selection for use in dog shows is related to low playfulness, low curiosity/fearlessness, low sociability and low aggressiveness. Here’s Hershey. Knowing that her purported mix is of two breeds that tend to be territorial is far less useful to me than observing territorial behavior and addressing it. Obviously not something that was encouraged, but also not a rarity with Danes. Sure, but don’t bet on it being yours. The fact that they don’t stand behind the results for use in court cases or to identify breeds where legislation ban them, and also won’t testify in court as experts speaks volumes. But we all know that real children smell, look, sound, and move much differently than a fake one. he would become very stiff, tense and watchful when she was around and I watched the two of them with as much hawk like vision as I could. Afterall, a dog doesn’t care what it looks like and it doesn’t have much control or say in the matter either. Observe, evaluate, and decide. Observe, evaluate, and decide. No more having your arm pulled out of your socket on walks but that the dog reactivity thing was still an enormous issue. Your email address will not be published. Beth with the Corgis, well put. Many people seem to dismiss this as not “real” work but remember the farmer of old who developed these dogs probably didn’t have 500 head of sheep. I don’t care. Soon after we entered the store, we saw an older couple with a sweet, wagging (but perhaps just-a-little-too-confident) pit bull puppy. The results are in! But then, no one actually came very close to guessing what came back on the Wisdom Panel, which was: One parent was half Boxer and half American Staffordshire Terrier (so Leo is 1/4 of each). I had mine done at a Pet Expo, so the lab received it within 3 days (yay!!). Would like to hear an explanation of that one. I got mine 2 weeks after they received it exactly but it was on analyzing the results for a week. I am not going to make my determination based on breed alone but on behavior observed. Livescore, panel results and more from able fast. The computer program is looking for patterns consistent with both different ancestral breed types (“Guard breeds” like mastiffs, Am Staffs, etc, “Ancient breeds” like Chows and Siberian Huskys or “European breeds” like hounds and retrievers), and individual breeds, each of which has its own distinctive pattern of arrangement of base-pairs. Cocker Spaniel. And that got the author wondering about whether we should expect/accept certain behaviors as “normal for the breed” or not. They also respect that behavior. Whatever the result, I’ll be taking it with a large pinch of salt. I quickly agreed because again there is that crazy dog lady thing. There is a myth attached to pedigree dogs – that they are superior to mutts, by their selective breeding. Primal need to quickly asses the situation so we know what might be called for in a given situation (run away, advance toward, sit tight): prey, predator, friend, foe, us, them, competitor, compadre, etc. Neither are they saying that Leo is, for example, exactly 21.86% German Spitz, but rather, “…the relative strength of each result in our analysis with the most likely at the top of the list.” Exactly, then, what the percentages mean were unclear to me, until I spoke to several people at Mars itself. Breed Testing: 250+. I’m rather surprised that nobody has done any trial work on these products and published the results because if the tesst were anywhere near so accurate as they imply – but don’t claim – one would expect them to be shouting that from the rooftops. This was alot of fun! I think it would be a very interesting subject for Trisha to discuss how people internalize others’ reactions to their dogs, and empathy towards people vs empathy towards dogs, etc. I expect if the DdB’s came in as pups people would have reacted exactly the same way. They have mostly succeeded. @Mary K – what a lovely post and you are absolutely spot on with regard to breeding IMO. Met a woman once who found a ‘dumped’, tiny, 5wo puppy in a school window well, & named him “Darwin”, having NO idea what evolve into. Janis Bradley has written a book, ‘Dogs Bite But Balloons and Slippers Are More Dangerous’. I was ok with my acquaintances mastiffs because they were leashed, but I would not necessarily want to have just a four-foot fence between me and them with no owners in sight either. They greeted us calmly. I asked some questions about the dog, who had some back end issues that I wanted to catch up on. FAQ. 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